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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 05:20:06 PM »
In something like this, what happens to the listings in Anaheim Hills, Orange Park Acres, etc? I wonder if sales fall through in an environment like this.
Only 14 houses burned.  While that may be a lot, it's not close enough to change the market IMO.

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2017, 05:52:31 PM »
In something like this, what happens to the listings in Anaheim Hills, Orange Park Acres, etc? I wonder if sales fall through in an environment like this.
Only 14 houses burned.  While that may be a lot, it's not close enough to change the market IMO.

I agree, people won't be deterred from buying. You'll just pay more for homeowner's insurance. I remember the 1993 Laguna Beach fire and hundreds of homes were destroyed. That didn't stop folks from buying. 

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2017, 06:40:19 PM »
Yesterday, the Santa Ana's weren't blowing like they normally do.  Normally, the Santa Ana's come over the hill and out of the canyon blow like a wind tunnel through Cowan Heights, Tustin Ranch, OPA, Villa Park.

The fire burned Peters Canyon. JIMHO, Peters Canyon was burning and if the wind did a typical Santa Ana wind, Tustin Ranch and Cowan Heights would be looking like the neighborhood in Santa Rosa and OCFA might to have had the discussion if the fire line to try and hold was the 5 & 55 FWYs.

That area is hilly and full of fuel..

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2017, 07:32:30 PM »
Yesterday, the Santa Ana's weren't blowing like they normally do.  Normally, the Santa Ana's come over the hill and out of the canyon blow like a wind tunnel through Cowan Heights, Tustin Ranch, OPA, Villa Park.

The fire burned Peters Canyon. JIMHO, Peters Canyon was burning and if the wind did a typical Santa Ana wind, Tustin Ranch and Cowan Heights would be looking like the neighborhood in Santa Rosa and OCFA might to have had the discussion if the fire line to try and hold was the 5 & 55 FWYs.

That area is hilly and full of fuel..

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Yeah, it could have been real bad if the winds were stronger and kept going for 2-3 days. 
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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 10:46:28 AM »
In something like this, what happens to the listings in Anaheim Hills, Orange Park Acres, etc? I wonder if sales fall through in an environment like this.

Nothing will happen.

14 houses but look at where they were............. all over the map except for that one street in Anaheim Hills. I saw an interview with one of the homeowners whose home was destroyed on that street. He spoke of the "last" fire 10 years ago which he thought would hit his house but the wind changed. Didn't stop home sales there at all.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/10/09/this-map-shows-where-the-anaheim-hills-brush-fire-is-burning/

The fire icon shows the homes that were burned along with their addresses.

If I lived in OH I would definitely make sure I had documentation of everything in my house on video and scan receipts. That place is "due" for another fire. It was threatened in 1997 but the wind changed, parts burned in 2007 and here it is 2017.

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2017, 10:53:58 AM »
Not to mention neither this fire nor the prior have the cause identified.  So IMHO, a fire bug or maybe a careless smoker, I know I've seen plenty flicking their cigarette out the window on the 241 and 91, or some other cause.  I'd put my money on fire bug though.

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2017, 03:41:04 PM »
Can't seem to find many updates for east of the toll road, where I am (I'm in Foothill Ranch). Frustrating. Last I heard, the fire was 40% contained, the west side was halted, but the fire was still moving east as of last night. The last fire map I saw had the fire not far from F.R. if the wind starts again. Winds are expected to kick up tomorrow so we may not be out of the woods yet.

I loved this news clip. I feel the exact same as this lady. Living up in the foothills, surrounded by dry brush, and having been confronted with fire a few times, I have the attitude that if anything should happen, the house is just an accumulation of stuff. It's all replaceable. The people in it are what's important.

https://www.facebook.com/ocregister/videos/10155834853109630/?hc_ref=ARSpntRIPTyY-zRE6_vGAwva4gODn8K1aAWrSfY3zkxqR61BTlowOB90VSuEZuSaph4


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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2017, 04:45:55 PM »
Thankfully looks like the worst is behind us.

This says 3,500 structures are under threat as of this morning. Unfortunately, it doesn't say which city. The fire was moving east.

http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1881

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2017, 12:18:28 PM »
60% containment as of this morning. Full containment expected by Saturday. I guess I can stop playing my daily dose of John Mayer on repeat. Or not. Pretty sure he makes that guitar cry harder than Trojan would have if his fleet of cars had burst into flames.


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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2017, 06:38:11 PM »
It's important to note that this a fire like this can happen ANYWHERE, regardless of where you live relative to the coast. Fire hazard zone maps (FHZMs) show that the entirety of Newport Coast is considered to be located in a high-risk fire area, according to Cal Fire. Huge swaths of Shady Canyon and Turtle Rock are also considered to be located in a high-risk area, more than the residential areas of Orchard Hills! Santa Ana winds pose a risk anywhere in Southern California that lies adjacent to nature preserves, considering the dry native grasses that grow here. So if you live in a hillside community anywhere in Central Orange County, whether it's in Pelican Hill or Portola Springs, remain vigilant! Exercise fire safety with your families, and discuss what you would need to pack in the possible event of evacuation.

Here are the original, more clear maps. Though, the files are huge, and may crash your computer.

Newport Beach:
http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fhsz_maps/FHSZ/orange/c30_NewportBeach_vhfhsz.pdf

Irvine:
http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fhsz_maps/FHSZ/orange/c30_Irvine_vhfhsz.pdf

Tustin:
http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fhsz_maps/FHSZ/orange/c30_Tustin_vhfhsz.pdf
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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2017, 07:29:58 PM »
I don't see how Cameo Shores, Pelican Point, and southern CdM can be a high fire risk zone. It's right next to the ocean! Thanks for sharing anyways.

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2017, 07:47:07 PM »
I don't see how Cameo Shores, Pelican Point, and southern CdM can be a high fire risk zone. It's right next to the ocean! Thanks for sharing anyways.
Shocking, but important to know! Being coastal does not make you immune to an uncontrollable fire. We shouldn't forget that the Laguna Beach Fire in 1993 was one of the most destructive fires in the state of California, and the most destructive in Orange County--ever. 441 homes were severely damaged, and over 60 homes were completely destroyed, most of them in Emerald Bay!! The fire burned through Laguna Beach (of course) and through where Newport Coast, Turtle Ridge, Shady Canyon, and parts of Quail Hill sit today.

http://www.latimes.com/tn-cpt-me-1023-1993-fire-gallery-20131023-photogallery.html

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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2017, 07:55:29 AM »
I don't see how Cameo Shores, Pelican Point, and southern CdM can be a high fire risk zone. It's right next to the ocean! Thanks for sharing anyways.

Villager already mentioned it but there was a huge fire in Laguna Beach. I remember you can see from Turtle Rock and they were evacuating certain neighborhoods up there.

The chances are higher inland (as we've seen more of those fires since 1993) but in dry weather like we've been having, it can happen anywhere.
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Re: Another Wildfire
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2017, 12:50:15 PM »
Here's drone video and  image of Santa Rosa fire devastation.  Unbelievable

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/7522487-181/drone-video-shows-postal-worker?gallery=7515439&artslide=10



 

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