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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1350 on: December 14, 2017, 06:50:50 PM »
Dude, I once made out with a 13 year old and it was not weird, pathetic, or creepy.

Were you 32?

No, I was 15 and we were on a cruise ship.  It was great!  Ironically, she was from Alabama.

Cruise ships are awesome. When a ship is in international waters (more than 12 miles off coast), US law no longer applies.

That’s good, but what are you going to do 12 miles off the coast? (Go really wild on the cruse ship?)
Ask Liar Loan.

It can get really wild on a cruise. Most US cruise ships are registered in the Bahamas so once you go beyond 12 miles you are under Bahamian law. There was a case a few years back where a Filipino crew member had sex with an underage American passenger. Parents complained so the Bahamian police came aboard and gave the Filipino crew member a stern lecture about not having sex with underage girls and let him go with a warning and cruise line flew him home to the Philippines. Parents tried to get the FBI involved but the FBI refused because the sex happened outside of US territory so they had no jurisdiction. Another case a few years ago a crew member went missing on the Disney Wonder.  One solitary Bahamian detective met the ship when it returned to the US and he spent about an hour looking around and declared no foul play and closed the case. Missing crew member's family tried to get FBI to reopen the case because missing crew member was an American citizen and the Bahamian "investigation" was a joke but again, FBI declined for lack of jurisdiction.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1351 on: December 14, 2017, 07:53:43 PM »
Dude, I once made out with a 13 year old and it was not weird, pathetic, or creepy.

Were you 32?

No, I was 15 and we were on a cruise ship.  It was great!  Ironically, she was from Alabama.

Cruise ships are awesome. When a ship is in international waters (more than 12 miles off coast), US law no longer applies.

That’s good, but what are you going to do 12 miles off the coast? (Go really wild on the cruse ship?)
Ask Liar Loan.

It can get really wild on a cruise. Most US cruise ships are registered in the Bahamas so once you go beyond 12 miles you are under Bahamian law. There was a case a few years back where a Filipino crew member had sex with an underage American passenger. Parents complained so the Bahamian police came aboard and gave the Filipino crew member a stern lecture about not having sex with underage girls and let him go with a warning and cruise line flew him home to the Philippines. Parents tried to get the FBI involved but the FBI refused because the sex happened outside of US territory so they had no jurisdiction. Another case a few years ago a crew member went missing on the Disney Wonder.  One solitary Bahamian detective met the ship when it returned to the US and he spent about an hour looking around and declared no foul play and closed the case. Missing crew member's family tried to get FBI to reopen the case because missing crew member was an American citizen and the Bahamian "investigation" was a joke but again, FBI declined for lack of jurisdiction.

And you said cruise ships are awesome. Doesn’t seem awesome by your story.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1352 on: December 15, 2017, 09:09:50 AM »
Dude, I once made out with a 13 year old and it was not weird, pathetic, or creepy.

Were you 32?

No, I was 15 and we were on a cruise ship.  It was great!  Ironically, she was from Alabama.

Cruise ships are awesome. When a ship is in international waters (more than 12 miles off coast), US law no longer applies.

That’s good, but what are you going to do 12 miles off the coast? (Go really wild on the cruse ship?)
Ask Liar Loan.

Well, I can attest that lots of underage drinking occurred on said cruise.  No need to card somebody that doesn't look 21.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1353 on: December 15, 2017, 12:03:47 PM »
I'm gonna put this thread back on its tracks....this over reach is why you got Trump...stunningly stupid!!!

Hallmark Christmas movies under fire for spreading 'Caucasian cheer'

“We intentionally branded ourselves as the happy place. Abbott said. “Hallmark’s tagline is ‘the heart of TV.’”

And viewership has skyrocketed since President Trump promised to make America great again – making Hallmark one of the most-watched cable television networks in the nation.

Slate published a scathing review of the network -- complaining about its around-the-clock Christmas movies.

"They brim with white heterosexuals who exclusively, emphatically, and endlessly bellow “Merry Christmas” to every lumberjack and labradoodle they pass. They’re centered on beauty-pageant heroines and strong-jawed heroes with white-nationalist haircuts," the Slate writer declared.

There were complaints about the lack of gay people and feminists and Muslims in Hallmark Channel's movies.

Slate also whined about what it called the network's "42 hours of sugary, sexist, preposterously plotted, plot hole–festooned, belligerently traditional, ecstatically Caucasian cheer."

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/14/hallmark-christmas-movies-under-fire-for-spreading-caucasian-cheer.html

I didn't realize Muslims celebrated Christmas,  How could i have been so un-inclusive?

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1354 on: December 15, 2017, 12:06:23 PM »
No...old white snowflakes not being to deal with changing society and the global economy is why people got Trump...that and the electoral college.

I didn't realize Hallmark only makes cards for Christmas.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1355 on: December 15, 2017, 12:32:30 PM »
Not everyone who supports Trump is white
Some are green - with envy and dollar signs
(Or it could be - paraphrasing the good judge - yellow mixing with blue)

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1356 on: December 15, 2017, 12:40:09 PM »
No...old white snowflakes....

Liberals are tolerant until they aren't.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1357 on: December 15, 2017, 12:41:08 PM »
No...old white snowflakes....

Liberals are tolerant until they aren't.

I am tolerant of old white snowflakes...they just should be the ones making policies in the 21st century. 

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1358 on: December 15, 2017, 12:46:06 PM »
I am tolerant of old white snowflakes...they just should be the ones making policies in the 21st century.

I couldn't agree more.  ;D

But really, calling people names is the definition of intolerant.  It's why you made a big deal about Judge Roy Moore's use of the term "yellow", even though his use was more of an anachronism than an actual racial slur.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1359 on: December 15, 2017, 01:03:43 PM »
I am tolerant of old white snowflakes...they just should be the ones making policies in the 21st century.

I couldn't agree more.  ;D

But really, calling people names is the definition of intolerant.  It's why you made a big deal about Judge Roy Moore's use of the term "yellow", even though his use was more of an anachronism than an actual racial slur.

I didn't come up with the term snowflake.  Old White Fox News watchers did.  They are usually the ones who are most sensitive.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1360 on: December 15, 2017, 01:33:24 PM »
I think 4chan came up with it, but it has been widely adopted now, even by tolerant liberals.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1361 on: December 15, 2017, 11:50:36 PM »
I am not sure what factual basis or evidence you have to say  that you "don't think he damaged her based on what she claimed."  She said she was substantially damaged and it affects her to this day. 
I don't have a factual basis for that.  This is where I am stating my opinion.

I don't believe her that she was damaged.  No.  She does have some blurred credibility issues and integrity issues.  Had she been so fragile that she damaged by him, I'm very certain she would have been damaged by someone else.

I'm not even sure I believe her allegation 100%.  I think other girls would have come out stating the same thing. I do, however, believe that he courted young girls including the main accuser.

Doesn't sound like you have much empathy at all. 

I am not sure why I should consider your opinions are credible or influence my decision making in anyway then. 


Spootieho, I know you've posted that you're done with this convo. Sorry for dragging you back in. It's okay to hold that opinion. You shouldn't be shamed for it. I get what you're saying. Plot Twist: I'm a woman who was touched inappropriately as a young child by a man who abused his position of authority in one traumatic event. My pediatrician. Other children's families came forward. He committed suicide over this. I also put myself in a dangerous situation as a teenager where an adult man / coworker drove me to an empty cabin up in the mountains, set up to take advantage. (I got home safely.) There have been other events but I think you get the gist.

I bet the majority of women have had a crazy incident happen to them. It doesn't always mean the unraveling of a woman's life. It makes sense why you question it. Corfman said she drank, did drugs, attempted suicide, was promiscuous all as a result of this one incident. I never drank, never tried drugs, never attempted suicide, only one relationship. Mixed feelings about her story. I'm not saying it didn't happen. It may have. Of course it's messed up if it did. But she wanted to go home and he promptly took her home, end of story. No rape, no looming threats. Pinning a whole slew of bad choices she's made for years afterwards on that event seems overly dramatic, even to me.

She said she didn't come forward earlier because her kids were young. Ugh. As a mom, that is the exact reason I WOULD come forward. As a parent, you couldn't stand the thought of something possibly happening to another child right now when it's something you might be able to prevent. Something is fishy about this story, particularly the timing. She is thrice divorced and went BK as many times. Worked at a convenience store a few years back. She sounds like a down-and-out professional victim. Maybe she could use a payday.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1362 on: December 16, 2017, 09:57:55 PM »
Winning!!

A War Trump Won

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/opinion/sunday/war-trump-islamic-state.html?referer=

But this is also a press failure, a case where the media is not adequately reporting an important success because it does not fit into the narrative of Trumpian disaster in which our journalistic entities are all invested.

I include myself in this indictment. Foreign policy is the place where the risks of electing Trump seemed to me particularly unacceptable, and I’ve tended to focus on narratives that fit that fear, from the risk of regional war in Middle East to the perils in our North Korean brinksmanship.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1363 on: December 17, 2017, 08:27:34 AM »
Now for a little holiday  cheer ...


https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/12/15/stop-telling-im-angry-know-wish/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=johnpavlovitz

Dear Friend,

Thank you for your note to let me know you’re worried about me, that you’re concerned about my health—that you’re not sure that I realize I’m coming across as really angry lately.

Your assessment is correct.
I am angry.
I’m sorry.

I can imagine I’m not all that fun to be around right now, and that from time to time my words come across as combative or abrasive. I’m probably more than a bit of a downer lately and I apologize.

You’re going to have to bear with me, as I haven’t been sleeping well for about a year or so. Admittedly I’m not at my best these days, so you’ll need to forgive me. I’m chronically overtired. I’m exhausted from having to give all the sh*ts about people that you’re supposed to be giving—along with my own.

I’m worn out from keeping up on legislation and watching hearings and staying on top of details and remembering deadlines and imploring action—while you go about your day as if such things are an annoyance, is if they are a disruption of your plan, as if the expiration date for my outrage has long come and gone.

I am absolutely burnt out from trying to make my voice loud enough to counteract not only the bad people’s incredible volume—but your deafening silence. Both of these things are doing similar damage right now, sadly.

Believe me, I understand that my activism is a problem for you. Please know that your inactivism is similarly problematic for me. It’s part of the reason I am as angry as I am; because I’m not only having to fight against those who seem furiously bent on hurting people—I’m having to fight against those who don’t seem give enough of a damn that they are doing so, to say anything.

Look, I get it, I really do. It’s difficult to see so much bad news, to fully face the relentless flood of terrible, to try and wrap your brain around seemingly boundless cruelty around you. It’s tiresome to spend so much time with a closed fist. I know it’s even a pain in the rear end to endure the continual rantings of people like me on your news feed and in your timeline and across the dinner table and in the break room.

I’m tired of me too.
I’m sick of the fight too.
I’m sick of the sound of my own voice.
I’d rather not be doing this either.
I’d much rather prefer to just enjoy life, to forget about it all, to only post pictures of puppies and my kids, and to simply ignore all that “political garbage.”
But that is what privilege looks like; to even believe I have such an option, to have the great luxury of living without urgency because I can seemingly shield myself from it all.

That is what the bad people are counting on. They’re counting on good people who are too tired, too apathetic, too selfish, or to oblivious to sustain their outrage. I am not going to give that gift to them.


As long as they’re fully invested in putting people through hell, I’m going to be as invested in pushing back against it.
I think the people I love are worth it.
I think you and the people you love are worth it.
I think people I’ll never meet are worth it.

And that’s the rub here: love will often look a lot like rage, as it fiercely fights on behalf of those who are being attacked.

So yes, angry is not all that I am, but I am rightly angry.

And it would be really helpful if we could carry the load of outrage right now.

That would actually be a source of rest and joy and breath.

Friend, if you really want me to be less angry, you might try being a little more angry.

I am angry, friend.

I wish you were angry too.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1364 on: December 17, 2017, 02:51:40 PM »
You’ll never get it. You are still stunned that any of this could even happen. I for one am happy to be part of the “bad people“ and a joyous deplorable

 

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