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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by morekaos on Today at 01:00:51 PM »
It just comes out of my mouth that way...
>:D

Wiretaps may prove Trump right — and that’s absolutely terrifying


If so, that would mark an infamous history — an American president being overheard by secret agents of his own government.
It would also be additional support for Trump’s charge that former President Barack Obama “had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory.”

It was in March when Trump made that explosive claim, and the Democratic media rushed to denounce him even before Obama did. Subsequent denials from then-FBI boss James Comey and other Obama aides all were rock-solid in declaring that no such thing had happened. There was no wiggle room in their denials, some of which were made under oath before Congress.

But something certainly happened. And what if it was the worst imaginable something? What if the Republican candidate for president was put under surveillance by a Democratic administration that was trying to elect another Democrat?

http://nypost.com/2017/09/19/wiretaps-may-prove-trump-right-and-thats-absolutely-terrifying/
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Burn That Belly on Today at 12:49:08 PM »
Why do folks in here like using big red font??  ;D
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Sports / Re: Lakers News
« Last post by jmoney74 on Today at 12:24:38 PM »
Really hope we don't get Westbrook.. He just doesn't fit.
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by morekaos on Today at 11:47:02 AM »
Manafort doesn't seem very concerned...if there was anything to really see why would he want them to release all the tapes? Beyond proving that Trump was on some of them and thus vindicating him, there doesn't seem to be much there there.

Paul Manafort wants transcripts of his surveilled conversations released

“Mr. Manafort requests that the Department of Justice release any intercepts involving him and any non-Americans so interested parties can come to the same conclusion as the DOJ — there is nothing there,” his statement said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/manafort-transcripts-conversations-released-article-1.3507084
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by eyephone on Today at 11:40:17 AM »
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been under FBI surveillance since before the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported.

This is not exactly correct.  He was no longer under surveillance when he became Trump's campaign manager.  In order to get surveillance renewed by the court, the FBI has to show cause, which apparently they didn't have.  When they tried to renew surveillance in 2016 during the campaign, it was at first rejected by the court.  The scope of the request was then changed and they received a more narrow warrant then they originally sought.  In all likelihood, the fake Trump dossier is what was used as justification for the second warrant.

Again. I don't think people are concerned. Since he was under the radar previously by the government, according to the article mentioned previously.
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Liar Loan on Today at 11:35:00 AM »
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been under FBI surveillance since before the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported.

This is not exactly correct.  He was no longer under surveillance when he became Trump's campaign manager.  In order to get surveillance renewed by the court, the FBI has to show cause, which apparently they didn't have.  When they tried to renew surveillance in 2016 during the campaign, it was at first rejected by the court.  The scope of the request was then changed and they received a more narrow warrant then they originally sought.  In all likelihood, the fake Trump dossier is what was used as justification for the second warrant.
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Food and Dining / Re: New Korean BBQ place
« Last post by USCTrojanCPA on Today at 11:19:29 AM »
Finally got to try it. Went before 5pm and got seated right away. My party find the server hovering over the grill rather annoying and intrusive to our carrying on a conversation. Three guys with average appetite polished off the $99 beef combo with room to spare and clamoring for dessert, which is unusual, because most of time when we are done with dinner, we are full and done. 

Gen, Shik Do Rak, All That BBQ and Honey Pig BBQ are all equally tasty and cheaper. Will likely not go back. We still prefer the freedom of cooking ourselves. Much more relaxing, too.

Cool, so the lines are dying down a bit.  I'll have to try it out soon.
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Sports / Re: Lakers News
« Last post by eyephone on Today at 11:19:25 AM »
He's made of glass.  If he plays significant minutes, he'll be injured by Xmas.  If they let the young guns run around and he comes off the bench, he can probably last well into next year (and playoffs, haha)
...Playoffs, we talking about playoffs!?!...

"Lonzo Ball is gonna take the Lakers to the playoffs his first year. Come see me when he does. I'll have another hat on that say 'I told you so.'" Lavar Ball

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-lavar-ball-guarantees-lonzo-will-lead-lakers-to-playoffs-next-season/amp/

Let's Go




Yeah, maybe if they played in the East.

Yeah. If not this year, then Fo sure next year. (LeBron?, PG?)
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Sports / Re: Lakers News
« Last post by USCTrojanCPA on Today at 11:17:28 AM »
He's made of glass.  If he plays significant minutes, he'll be injured by Xmas.  If they let the young guns run around and he comes off the bench, he can probably last well into next year (and playoffs, haha)
...Playoffs, we talking about playoffs!?!...

"Lonzo Ball is gonna take the Lakers to the playoffs his first year. Come see me when he does. I'll have another hat on that say 'I told you so.'" Lavar Ball

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-lavar-ball-guarantees-lonzo-will-lead-lakers-to-playoffs-next-season/amp/

Let's Go




Yeah, maybe if they played in the East.
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by eyephone on Today at 11:07:43 AM »
"Former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort Has Been Under FBI Surveillance For Years

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been under FBI surveillance since before the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported. The surveillance, which included wiretapping, searches, and other types of observation, reportedly began in 2014, when Manafort was the subject of an investigation into work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for the former ruling party of Ukraine."

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/09/19/paul-manafort-fbi-surveillance-donald-trump-russia/%3fsource=dam



I don't think people care. (Maybe they do)

Maybe more people should care.  Trump was not the only one being spied on by the Obama administration.

There were also members of Congress, as well as journalists that were being wire tapped during Obama's presidency.

Does this worry anybody?

It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me

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Nobody wants our intel agencies to be used like the Stasi in East Germany; the secret police spying on its own citizens for political purposes. The prospect of our own NSA, CIA and FBI becoming politically weaponized has been shrouded by untruths, accusations and justifications.

You’ll recall DNI Clapper falsely assured Congress in 2013 that the NSA was not collecting “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”

Intel agencies secretly monitored conversations of members of Congress while the Obama administration negotiated the Iran nuclear deal.

In 2014, the CIA got caught spying on Senate Intelligence Committee staffers, though CIA Director John Brennan had explicitly denied that.

There were also wiretaps on then-Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) in 2011 under Obama. The same happened under President George W. Bush to former Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-Calif.).

The government subsequently got caught monitoring journalists at Fox News, The Associated Press, and, as I allege in a federal lawsuit, my computers while I worked as an investigative correspondent at CBS News. On Aug. 7, 2013, CBS News publicly announced:

… correspondent Sharyl Attkisson’s computer was hacked by ‘an unauthorized, external, unknown party on multiple occasions,’ confirming Attkisson’s previous revelation of the hacking.

I have spent more than two years litigating against the Department of Justice for the computer intrusions. Forensics have revealed dates, times and methods of some of the illegal activities. The software used was proprietary to a federal intel agency. The intruders deployed a keystroke monitoring program, accessed the CBS News corporate computer system, listened in on my conversations by activating the computer’s microphone and used Skype to exfiltrate files.

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me
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