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Water Cooler / Re: LOL GOP
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 09:23:51 PM »

Facebook to expand inquiry into Russian influence of Brexit

Can somebody tell them to mind there own business? (Is that their calling card?)

Here is another one to think about .. lot of speculation , but some valid points in there too.

Foreign spies could be manipulating Trump through Fox News

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/17/16878406/donald-trump-fox-news-russia-cia-foreign-spies

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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 09:20:54 PM »
Another GEM of an article from WSJ .  Unlike nonsense from Fox or Fox Business , this is what true " Fair and Balanced " looks like .

https://www.wsj.com/articles/where-would-stocks-be-now-if-hillary-clinton-were-president-1516295645?mod=e2tw


Where Would Stocks Be Now if Hillary Clinton Were President?
President Trump can take credit for some movement in the market, but not as much as it may first appear

By
James Mackintosh

What if Hillary Clinton had won? A year on from the inauguration of Donald Trump as president, Democrats are if anything more upset than they were then. Investors, not so much. So, where would markets be if Mrs. Clinton, not Mr. Trump, were in charge of the presidential Twitter account?

A few things are clear. There wouldn’t have been a huge corporate tax cut. Small business confidence, based on hopes of less red tape, wouldn’t have leaped to the highest since Ronald Reagan’s first term as president. Banks wouldn’t be expecting an easy ride from regulators. And there would be a lot less fiery rhetoric from the White House.

But let’s look at the details. Many of the market-moving changes since the U.S. presidential election would have been just the same. Most important among them: The global economic rebound started before voters picked Mr. Trump, and would surely have continued. That rebound has driven up stocks and bond yields world-wide, and the U.S. is only in the middle of the performance table. From the day before the election, Italy, France, Germany and emerging markets have beaten U.S. stocks in dollar terms, including dividends, while Canada lags well behind.

Finding the cause of any given price move in a market with millions of participants is an imprecise art, and it is easy to confirm your beliefs. After all, Quinnipiac University polling shows 65% of Republicans strongly approve of the way Mr. Trump is handling the presidency, while 86% of Democrats strongly disapprove. Every fact is seen through partisan glasses.

Yet, even die-hard Clintonites are hard-pressed to argue that stocks would be higher if Mrs. Clinton sat in the Oval Office. Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, who runs one of the Rothschild family investment companies, E.L. Rothschild LLC, hosted high-profile fundraisers for her friend and was distraught when she lost the election, but accepts that investors have welcomed Mr. Trump’s policies.

“The market’s definitely liking what Trump is doing,” she says. “For now.”

Mrs. Clinton wouldn’t have focused on tax cuts and deregulation. The corporate tax cuts will boost earnings by about a tenth, supporting stock prices and boosting returns from U.S. investments. Gains from deregulation are hard to quantify but should help small businesses and banks the most.

Immediately after the election, investors priced in much of the Trump agenda, with smaller companies, banks and companies which pay a lot of tax (and so would benefit most from cuts) far outperforming the wider market for a few months. Yet, much of it didn’t last.

From the election to Wednesday’s close, the Russell 2000 index of smaller companies and the S&P 500 both returned 35%, including dividends. Both were great investments, but there was no extra benefit for smaller-company investors. Stocks outside the U.S. made the same 35% in dollar terms.

High-tax companies have done well since the tax cuts gained support in the fall, but according to Goldman Sachs have exactly matched the S&P 500 since the election.

Surely shareholders in banks, at least, can give Mr. Trump credit for their whopping 57% return? Even here the waters are muddied by rising bond yields. Bank shares have moved closely with 10-year Treasury yields, which are entirely unaffected by talk of lighter regulation. Much of the bank share-price gains are down to the same prospect of higher inflation and higher interest rates that pushed up bond yields.

So would inflation and interest rates be lower under a Democratic president? It is possible. Mr. Trump’s election enthused CEOs and small-business owners, and there is typically a link between them feeling positive and stronger hiring and capital expenditure. On the other hand, there has been a similar pickup in hiring and corporate investment in other countries. The U.S. would have gained from the same global growth pattern under Mrs. Clinton, too.

“Relative to what’s happened I’m not sure the economics would be that different [under Mrs. Clinton],” said Jan Loeys, senior adviser at J.P. Morgan. “The rebound in the rest of the world would have happened anyway.”


The technology sector adds to the confusion. Silicon Valley poured cash into Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, and tech shares tumbled along with other expected Trump victims such as Mexico and Obamacare-linked stocks after the election. This makes sense: Leading tech companies already have low tax rates, so gain little from tax cuts, and will be hit by Mr. Trump’s clampdown on visas for skilled foreign workers. Yet, the tech sector rebounded and has returned 50% since election eve. Perhaps it would have done even better if it had its favored candidate in the White House, and so pulled up the S&P 500 even more.

What of the future? Vincent Mortier, deputy chief investment officer at France’s Amundi, worries that Mr. Trump is creating long-term risks for short-term gain. Tax cuts boost stocks now but could worsen inequality and so put future political stability at risk. Deregulation around energy raises the danger from climate change. And nationalist talk makes an eventual trade war more likely.

America under Mrs. Clinton would have had no corporate tax cut and no deregulation, and probably be a bit less lucrative for investors. But it would be wrong to give Mr. Trump much credit for the faster economy last year, and it is many years too early to know if his policies will provide a lasting boost.
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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 09:04:41 PM »
Wall Street Journal is at it again -- they just won't leave the Stormy Daniels story alone.  Gotta hand it to the reporting staff.  Cant imagine the pressure they must be under when your ultimate boss is Rupert Murdoch.

Before we cast stones , who amongst us hasn't paid hush money to an adult pornstar via a fake Delaware LLC ?


https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-used-private-company-pseudonyms-to-pay-porn-star-stormy-daniels-1516315731?mg=prod/accounts-wsj

A White House official last week also denied any sexual encounter took place and declined to comment on any agreement. The White House didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on Thursday.

After the Journal published its story Friday, several media organizations said Ms. Clifford or her manager discussed the alleged sexual encounter with them in the weeks before the 2016 election.

Mr. Cohen initially had planned to make the $130,000 payment using an entity called Resolution Consultants LLC, according to some of the people familiar with the matter. He created the company on Sept. 30, 2016, Delaware records show.

On the morning of Oct. 17, 2016, he created Essential Consultants, according to state records. Two minutes later, he dissolved Resolution Consultants, the records show. It isn’t clear why he closed Resolution Consultants.

Mr. Cohen said in an email last week that Resolution Consultants conducted no business and had no bank account.
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Water Cooler / Re: LOL GOP
« Last post by eyephone on Today at 08:36:45 PM »
MEdia's job is to make money .  they dont care about ideology.  Jeff Zucker is a well known liberal who was a big Trump booster all throughout his career at NBC and then CNN. 

Polling has generally been accurate within margin of error as the recent special elections have shown. 

and dont forget

1.  it was the liberal New York times who broke the email server story that became Hillarys downfall
2. it was the liberal nyt again who broke the Harvey Weinstein story (a big dem supporter) and triggered the  launch of  the #metoo movement
3. Clinton foundation donations - again, NYT

what do we get from right wing media?  -- fake stories like the "comet pizza sex ring" which conservatives believe blindly thanks to their reliance on only Fox News and the rightwing online cesspool o and we get the tragedy of a mentally unstable nut job actually attacking a pizza parlor based on that misinformation.

Seriously --- read the Sunday new York times .  and then watch Fox News .  if you haven't so far, just do it once for your own sake

it is like day and night .  the depth of reporting , the analysis is actually unmatched in this day and age.  even if i completely ignore the biased opinion pieces (which I agree are biased) --- the travel section, the style section, sports,  food and wellness - it is unparalleled.

sometimes they try to over correct (what they perceive to be the common perception of bias from people such as yourselves ) and we get disasters like overkill on email coverage while going soft footed on trump .  and we all know what this led to in 2016.



Yeah we are understanding what happened.
It’s known Russia operatives placed ads on Facebook.
Twitter may notify users exposed to Russian propaganda during 2016 election.

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F62D0


Facebook to expand inquiry into Russian influence of Brexit

Can somebody tell them to mind there own business? (Is that their calling card?)
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Irvine Real Estate / Re: Amazon to build second Headquarters
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 08:36:19 PM »
Maybe LA?
-Port of LA/LB
-Film: growing the film segment
-Airport: flights are available to all over the world, got to take care of an issue no problem, vendors can fly in with ease
-Produce: a lot of produce from the globe come to LA (grocery segment)
-Entertainment: things to do too many to list, take out clients, company outing
-Food: maybe the food choice the best in the US
-Weather: maybe the best climate in the US
-Infrastructure: already in place (at a small town, I don’t know)

bottom line: Happy workers = more productivity.


(Tax break is nothing when you are making money hands over fist.)

Agree, small tax breaks means nothing to these companies. on the other hand , if I were amazon, knowing what a terrible fiscal situation Chicago is in , I would never ever move there . as down the road that city would fleece amazon to no end - death via a thousand cuts

LA could have a had a strong esp since amazon studios / imdb is based here and they have a lot of say in the company now, according to a friend of mine who works there.  plus they are behind the most recent amazon success, "man in the high castle" . 

Problem with LA is where would amazon locate itself -- LA means downtown area for the most part and seeing what  the NFL stadium process went through, I just dont see that scale of redevelopment in a city rife with activists and everyone with their hand out for more $$ and demands.
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Water Cooler / Re: LOL GOP
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 07:39:50 PM »
MEdia's job is to make money .  they dont care about ideology.  Jeff Zucker is a well known liberal who was a big Trump booster all throughout his career at NBC and then CNN. 

Polling has generally been accurate within margin of error as the recent special elections have shown. 

and dont forget

1.  it was the liberal New York times who broke the email server story that became Hillarys downfall
2. it was the liberal nyt again who broke the Harvey Weinstein story (a big dem supporter) and triggered the  launch of  the #metoo movement
3. Clinton foundation donations - again, NYT

what do we get from right wing media?  -- fake stories like the "comet pizza sex ring" which conservatives believe blindly thanks to their reliance on only Fox News and the rightwing online cesspool o and we get the tragedy of a mentally unstable nut job actually attacking a pizza parlor based on that misinformation.

Seriously --- read the Sunday new York times .  and then watch Fox News .  if you haven't so far, just do it once for your own sake

it is like day and night .  the depth of reporting , the analysis is actually unmatched in this day and age.  even if i completely ignore the biased opinion pieces (which I agree are biased) --- the travel section, the style section, sports,  food and wellness - it is unparalleled.

sometimes they try to over correct (what they perceive to be the common perception of bias from people such as yourselves ) and we get disasters like overkill on email coverage while going soft footed on trump .  and we all know what this led to in 2016.

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Water Cooler / Re: President Trump
« Last post by fortune11 on Today at 07:24:26 PM »
Trump is at 37% after all this shock and awe boom.

you all can hope but don't forget

- Obama gave out refunds and cash for clunkers but didnt stop him from losing midterms in a bad economy
- bush had an even better economy in 2006 ( than we have now) but still lost the midterms due to Iraq and general distaste for gop

distate for gop is even worse now.  this forum is a general watering hole for conservative sympathizers and trump supporters so may not feel that way to you guys but step or read outside your bubble and you will know.  democrats are winning special elections left right and center. 

I am not calling for a dem wave sweep but house is almost certain to change control esp given so many blue states involved. and losing even one wing of power means MAGA project is jammed for good.

and jim cramer is one of the biggest hacks out there (if you followed his stock picks in 2000 you probably got destroyed and then again in 2008). ... so called  Marshall plan :).   companies can put the cash to work anyway they want and who is keeping track?   if apple spends some of that cash to buy Tesla , they can still call it " investing in the US "
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Irvine Real Estate / Re: Amazon to build second Headquarters
« Last post by Panda on Today at 06:25:05 PM »
Eyephone. Just like south beach Miami and south side chicago, there is a lot of regentrification taking place southside of Atlanta, especially near College Park area where the new Porsche headquarters is located. There are a lot of upside potential investing near the airport.

Panda - great statistics. However, the Atlanta airport was shut down due to the power outage this past December. Also, the airport has a homeless problem according to the article below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/atlanta-airport-power-outage-2017-12

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/security-alert-renews-concerns-over-airport-homeless-population




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Irvine Real Estate / Re: Amazon to build second Headquarters
« Last post by eyephone on Today at 06:07:51 PM »
Panda - great statistics. However, the Atlanta airport was shut down due to the power outage this past December. Also, the airport has a homeless problem according to the article below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/atlanta-airport-power-outage-2017-12

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/security-alert-renews-concerns-over-airport-homeless-population



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