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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by rkp on Today at 01:02:25 AM »
Echo'ing USC's comment, newfound appreciation and respect for trauma.  CHOC notes this under what makes them a Level II trauma center:

To be designated as a Level II trauma center, CHOC goes above and beyond to meet the requirements set by Orange County Emergency Medical Services by offering the following:
Eight board-certified pediatric trauma surgeons, led by trauma medical director Dr. David Gibbs, and a trauma-trained pediatric nurse manager.
Pediatric specialists in anesthesia, cardiothoracic surgery, craniofacial and plastic surgery, emergency, neurosurgery, otolaryngology (ENT) surgery, orthopaedic surgery, pediatric surgery, urology and vascular surgery, available 24 hours a day.
An award-winning pediatric intensive care unit (PICU) providing intensive and acute care to critically ill surgical and medical pediatric patients.
State-of-the-art operating rooms for performing immediate or emergency surgery using the latest and safest procedures.
Support services for patients and their families dealing with a traumatic situation, including psychology services, child life services, social services and our Pediatric Advanced Care Team.
Additional services in the hospital including a blood bank, radiology and rehabilitation services.
A commitment to providing education about safety and injury prevention in the community.


Also, apparently UCI is the only Level I in OC and these 4 as others noted are the official trauma centers in OC:

Mission Hospital Regional Medical Center
27700 Medical Center Road
Mission Viejo, CA  92691
Hospital:  (949) 364-1400                           (Private)
Trauma:  (949) 364-7754"

UC Irvine Medical Center
101 The City Drive South
Orange, CA  92868
Hospital:  (714) 456-7890                           (University)
Trauma:  (714) 456-5637"

Orange County Global Medical Center
1001 North Tustin
Santa Ana, CA  92705
Hospital:  (714) 835-3555                           (Private)
Trauma:  (714) 953-3422"

Children's Hospital Orange County                             
1201 West La Veta Avenue                                       
Orange CA  92868                                                                 
Hospital: (714) 997-3000
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Irvine Real Estate / Re: Palo Alto, Plan 3 at SG
« Last post by Sunnyirvine on Today at 12:49:31 AM »
Is 28feet deep backyard is decent? It is hard to visualize until homes are built. Thoughts??  There are few lots with premium in PS.
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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by USCTrojanCPA on Today at 12:07:39 AM »
This thread has given me a whole new level of respect for trauma medical professionals. 
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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by Ready2Downsize on Today at 12:00:42 AM »
It's not just about having a helipad. You have to have the staff IN HOUSE and available to deal with a trauma. Many hospitals have staff like ultrasound techs only on call at night or weekends when they only need to do emergency scans and can't spare other staff like respiratory to respond to a trauma and be there for extended amounts of time. They have to have lots of blood on hand in the blood bank and staff to perform labwork in a major hurry, OR staff in house, not just on call. Hospitals run skeleton crews at nights and weekends and many can't spare their staff to handle traumas. Then you also need MDs who specialize in trauma care and RNs who are used to dealing with that high stress care day in and day out. You don't want to have staff that has to think thru steps to take. You want them to be able to perform their duties in a hurry, like it's second nature and who are used to working together, staff that can anticipate what the doc is going to call for and has it ready, not someone bumbling around trying to find this or that.

Very high stress dealing with traumas where time is of the essence.

Not all hospitals can handle it because they aren't staffed or trained for it.

It would be like putting together a bike for your kid. You know u can do it, you've done it before but you have to lay out all the pieces and look at the instructions to remind yourself the exact steps because it was a while ago since you put together another bike. You don't want that if someone's life depends on it.

And all traumas are not the same. There are accidents, shootings/knifings, electrocutions, accidental dismemberments, car accidents with pregnant ladies or kids involved, burns, etc.

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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by Ready2Downsize on Yesterday at 11:46:21 PM »
Helicopters are not always the fastest way to transport a patient. You need to consider multiple factors: incident location, weather, traffic, availability of ground vs air transport, and severity of injury. Although the actual flight time might be shorter, you need to add time for dispatch, flight time to location, pickup time at landing zone, and then flight time to the hospital. In many cases, ground transport with lights and sirens makes more sense.

Sunday at 5 PM probably not a lot of traffic. Probably would have went by ambulance to either Mission or Global (or maybe CHOC since that is where he eventually went).

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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by irvineshadow on Yesterday at 11:35:25 PM »
I might be thinking of mission hospital instead. Just goes to show how complicated this gets.
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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by iacrenter on Yesterday at 11:33:05 PM »
Helicopters are not always the fastest way to transport a patient. You need to consider multiple factors: incident location, weather, traffic, availability of ground vs air transport, and severity of injury. Although the actual flight time might be shorter, you need to add time for dispatch, flight time to location, pickup time at landing zone, and then flight time to the hospital. In many cases, ground transport with lights and sirens makes more sense.
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Around Town / Re: Irvine boy killed crossing street
« Last post by bones on Yesterday at 11:20:14 PM »
Hopefully no one on TI ends up in this same situation. But if there is any good out of this tragedy, people should understand the importance of calling 911 first.  This will be the right decision a vast majority of time.

Although your gut instincts tell you to grab and go, this would be bad medical practice--whether it's your child or not.

This is a sad situation for everyone. I don't blame the parents for making a difficult decision. Even if they had called 911 there is no guarantee the child would have survived. My prayers and condolences go out to the family.

Helicopters are very fast.  Something in the order of 15 mins from downtown LA to Orange County.

There out to be a program where if you dial 9-1-1 and request Medivac (pay out of your own pocket for just the transport portion (i'm guessing $5-10 grand with landing license) ) , you could in theory fly the kid from orange county to the best hospitals in LA right onto the hospitals roof top.

I'm sure there are lots of hospitals in LA equipped for trauma.  Cedar Sinai?  UCLA?  Lots of celebrities go there.

When people are overpaying for their homes and spending $800k-$1.5 million but trying to save $10-20 grand for their child's life?  I would just spend the $20 grand transport fee and get the 15 minute helicopter ride to any hospital you want.

I'm not an expert, and I'm  actually very curious about medi vac, but I'm sure saddleback hospital has a helicopter pad and a children's ICU. And I highly doubt the ability to pay is considered when the helicopter is called in, seeing as time is of the essence in this situation. Again, I'm no expert and don't know if this would have even applied to this situation.

In the U.S. claim payouts are lower for deaths than for someone who has lifetime medical needs.

I would imagine that is true everywhere. How cold blooded people are will determine who lives and gets treated in those situations.

Not sure saddleback has a pediatric ICU. I don't even think they have a kids floor. They do have a women's hospital with a NICU.
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Does SoCal Waters's quote include the whole house filter i.e. Big Blue Carbon Filter (http://www.socalwater.com/whole-house-filtration/)?

I am also looking to get the water softener and RO system installed and was quoted similar price. It seems that some people also got the carbon filter installed from SoCal Water in the past.   When I asked Scott, he stated that it is not needed in Irvine

I heard about Nuvia $3,500, SoCal Water $2,900, anyone else have any suggestions...
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